Experience Iowa's natural beauty and all the fun our state parks offer. OUT OF STOCK (0) Thompson/Center Arms 13110 Venture II 350 Legend 3+1 22" Weathe. Essentially, the .350 Legend cartridge is composed of a .35 caliber bullet fitted to a modified .223 Rem. “The two seasons have the highest participation of hunters which yields the highest deer harvest.”. Support conservation in Iowa by buying a natural resource plate for your vehicle. I’m looking to get an entry level bolt action rifle in 350 legend. Â. Make brass with slightly thinner neck walls and 0.357" bullets will chamber fine. The final step is to write the confirmation number on the harvest report tag. I like the price point of the Mossberg and savage best. *If you are an FFL dealer, manufacturer, peace officer, or member of a law enforcement agency or other government […] But there are questions about the cartridge that need to be looked at despite the positive forecast. I bought a Ruger AR 450BM last fall, wish I would have waited and got a 350 legend. Â, Report your harvest Said it opens up to much trouble guys wanting to hunt with a 9mm . Born in 1873, .45-70 Govt. Based on the specifications published by its manufacturer, the 350 Legend is an allowable straight-walled cartridge for deer hunting. This is what happens when gun companies are owned by bankers...in their endeavor to be different and make more money, they forgot to look up the hunting laws. Tune the ammo to stay in spec for pressure when fired in a 0.355" gun. p: 515-725-8200 “The .350 Legend combines three main benefits: low cost, low recoil, and large-caliber effectiveness on medium-sized game — 50 to 300 pounds — all in one caliber,” Masinelli said. IDNR have been in contact with Winchester and the IDNR said they will make an official ruling soon. For one week use I guess it doesn't really matter. At local shop near Des Moines shop owner had invested quite heavily in 350 Legend stuff Rifles ,ammo, barrels and mags .DNR officer a frequent customer walks in and ask to see a loaded case . The deer hides are used by the Veterans Leather Program to make professionally-crafted leather gloves for veterans in wheelchairs and also turned in to leather used for therapy programs for recovering veterans. Support conservation in Iowa by buying a natural resource plate for your vehicle. This was a good, baseline round, but Hornady wanted to surpass it and design a better hunting round. Forum statistics. Therefore, bullets exit the muzzle at approximately .355” when fired from any of those three cartridges. The following cartridges do not meet the above criteria, but were grandfathered in and are allowed:.444 Marlin,.375 Winchester and.45-70 Govt. Those states include, but may not be limited to: Michigan, Ohio, Iowa and Indiana. Heading into Iowa’s busiest outdoor ‘opening day,’ shotgun deer season hunters should expect to see about the same number of deer in the timber as last year – with the possible exception for hunters in southcentral Iowa, where local deer populations were impacted by an outbreak of hemorrhagic disease. It seems there was some question due to whether the bullet was .355 or .357? Yes, Silencers Are Legal® 42* States Permit Silencer Ownership The eight states that currently do not allow individuals to own silencers are California, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachussetts, New York, New Jersey, and the Rhode Island. Des Moines. The January antlerless season includes the option of using a centerfire rifle .24 caliber and larger as a legal method of take. If the DNR's bow to Winchester and allow the 9mm, just think of all the new rifles we can hunt with. Does one have a better chamber/throat for cast boolits? This is not that hard to fix by Winchester (or any other ammo maker). Hunters need to pick one of the seasons – only landowners can hunt both. Have been using the savage 220 bolt and love it but would love to move up to .350 or .450 if allowed as we have large open fields and a 200 yard plus shot would be a game changer It credits the .350 Legend with 903 ft. lbs. Straight-wall cartridge rifles have really taken off for whitetail deer hunting in the Midwest United States the last few years. .378 rim .390 body. The therapeutic kits and gloves are distributed at no cost to the veterans. Â. .45-70 Government. I really wish I could use any of my 30 cal. They have made no announcement on it but I do have a message that I sent them and they replied back that it was accepted. Any legally harvested deer may be taken to participating locker who will process the deer into two-pound packages of ground deer. Straight-Wall Rifle Cartridges Are Making a Comeback in Deer Hunting. Winchester Lied, 350 Legend Diedhow is the DNR "quibbling" ?Bruno's 100% correct, Winchester flung a dukey and it's not gonna make it over the fence.hope it was worth the boardroom S-storm fallout. Hunters may use rifles firing straight walled cartridges during both shotgun deer seasons and the January antlerless seasons. The Veterans Leather Program relies on the charity of hunters to donate their deer hides. .355 is .355. The DNR uses the specifications as published by the manufacturer to determine if the caliber meets the following parameters: Based on the specifications published by its manufacturer, the 350 Legend is an allowable straight-walled cartridge for deer hunting. Classifieds listings of Firearms in Iowa. The final rule is unchanged from what was proposed by the DNR staff in March. $3 for 3 months. It’s the hot ticket in town this year, and new rifle and ammo introductions are happening pretty fast. The .350 Legend has a lot of limitations for design, but Hornady was up to the challenge. “The shotgun seasons are a pretty awesome tradition we have in Iowa,” Harms said. Not yet anyway. We'll keep you posted on other restriction zone states. Latest profile posts. This is why I am hesitant. For those unaware, Winchester released the .350 Legend in an attempt to cater to Midwest hunters who can use straight walled cartridges for deer. “HUSH is a great program supported by the DNR and the Food Bank of Iowa that provides high quality lean protein to our neighbors in need,” Harms said. The DNR also expanded the January antlerless season beyond Allamakee, Clayton, Wayne and Appanoose counties to include Winneshiek County. The .350 Legend Winchester is even offering a suppressed load and an FMJ practice load for its new .350 Legend cartridge. Iowa Whitetail Conference. Information / Records Requests These licenses come with a few additional requirements – hunters must provide a tissue sample and they must hunt within the specified area. from a 20 inch rifle barrel, which is lower than any .30-30 load published in … Similar bullet tolerances also exist for 357 Magnum and 357 Maximum. There is no fee to the hunter, but Harms suggested they contact the locker before they harvest the deer to see if there are any additional instructions. If not before. Iowa DNR Customer Service In the course of the conversation I asked specifically what diameter bullet the 350 Legend used and he replied, "9mm". Donated deer hides benefit disabled veterans The 350 Legend SAAMI bullet diameter is specified at .357”-.003”. Thank you for your support, and welcome to the new Armslist.com. 0.002”? among our first successful self-contained metallic … blakesburg Darrin blakesburg wrote on Darrin's profile. Winchester/Savage Arms These are some top choices for rifles chambered in .350 Legend. Needless to say I thanked him and kept that email in case a field officer felt differently. The DNR has a goal of collecting more than 6,500 samples from across the state with the majority coming from counties along the Upper Mississippi River, the Missouri River and in central Iowa along the Missouri border. CMMG Inc. 35A5FE7BB Endeavor 300 MK4 Semi-Automatic 350 Legend . The 9mm cartridges are not allowed. Increased opportunities He told my buddy dont buy it for deer hunting just to play with. However, Ohio DNR regulations say that you can use .357 to .50 projectiles in straight wall cartridges, and Winchester’s .350 Legend projectile is .355 and not .357 diameter. Ok, so with the 357 AR that is a cat made from 223 brass, what does the discussion with the game warden look like? Still feel Winchester sold a big fat lie, but if it helps kids / women / non reloaders, I'm happy for the end users. Hunters who want to harvest more deer but don’t have the freezer space are encouraged to consider donating the deer to the HUSH (Help Us Stop Hunger) program, Harms said. Hunters who are successful are reminded of the harvest reporting requirement. Yes, the 350 Legend is the fastest SAAMI-approved straight-walled hunting cartridge for use in states that have specific regulations for deer hunting with straight-walled centerfire cartridges. Hunters donated more than 4,300 deer hides to Elks Lodges across Iowa last year, which was an increase of over 1,000 hides from 2017. Threads 18,676 Messages 544,331 Members 5,588 Latest member ILyotekilla1. “However, it also qualifies as a straight-wall-compliant cartridge if a hunter resides in a state with those caliber restrictions.” It has other upsides, too. Has anyone seen anything definite? This page contains a legal description of a muzzleloader, as is defined by the individual State. That's why I like the 357 AR I'm all good to go. After all the hoopla regarding bullet diameter, the.350 Legend has been confirmed legal for deer season in Iowa. One of my buddies are good friends with one of the Ohio DNR officers he said that the 350 legend is going to be a no go. _____ Say your prayers varmint. Wouldn't the gauge hole be 0.356" or .3565"... since .357" is the minimum legal caliber? literally.does DNR really stand for Damn Near Russian? "What where they thinking"Maybe a direct cause of the new marijuana laws.So, how did Winchester mess this up so badly? So, has any one been told the "Real" story behind the birth of the Legend? Chronic wasting disease Hunters must report their harvest to the DNR by midnight on the day after it is tagged or before taking it to a locker, taxidermist or processing it for consumption. It also includes each States blackpowder and … I know there has been a ton of talk on here that Winchester used a 9mm bullet for Legend but you would think they would have made the round legal before advertising it as one . Originally Posted by Spartan Most of the pistol rounds may present an issue if DNR holds us to the 1,200 FPE requirement for rifles under the straight wall regs. Winchester didn't do any research, or very little. This all seems like a screaming need for a reality check. The collection of taxes which are not absolutely required, which do not beyond reasonable doubt contribute to public welfare, is only a species of legalized larceny. Â. Winchester doesn't make the hunting laws for Iowa . There are also four special deer management zones each with a quota of antlerless deer tags available to hunters interested in helping collect tissue samples in the area around where a deer tested positive for the always fatal disease. Does anyone know if there has been a determination as to whether the .350 Legend will be legal for deer in Iowa? The printed version of the 2019-20 Iowa Hunting, Trapping and Migratory Game Bird Regulations omitted the language from a new state law that allows hunters with a nonambulatory deer license to hunt during any open season until the license is filled, using the method of take allowed for that season. “Hunters are key to us reaching our sample goals – which gives us the data to monitor for this disease.”. Make your online reservation for state park cabins, camping sites, shelters and lodges. This is exactly why the .350 Legend exists. I could be wrong, but I thought Winchester stated it was a .357 in one of the shot show videos?????? Muzzleloader Regulations by State. Why the hell didn't Winchester just take the obvious, and simplest, route of licensing the .357AR? 350 Legend’s Cost: Cost could also be an important factor for the 350 Legend. We will see . Weather played a factor last year as thousands of hunters switched their licenses from first season to second to avoid a winter storm. Based on the SAAMI drawings the 350 legend has a rebated rim. Each of the five participating counties still have antlerless licenses available: Allamakee 2,900 licenses; Clayton 1,700 licenses; Wayne 1,800 licenses; Appanoose 1,600 licenses; and Winneshiek 1,700 licenses. if the DNR checks your junk, the print on file at SAAMI won't make your projectile grow enough .001"s to pass the testmy understanding is that production samples are not SAAMI compliant, undersize projectile leaving the hunter holding the bag. Is he going to come to my blind with a calipers, pull a bullet to measure it to make sure I’m not 0.001”too small? And I admit that from the first I assumed 350 Legend would be legal in Ohio but at the NRA show I stopped by the Winchester booth and was talking to a Winchester representative there about the 350 Legend. Of the nearly 108,000 deer harvested in Iowa last year, more than 59,000 came from the shotgun seasons. The 444, 45-70, and 375 were allowed because they fall under the chambered in a handgun provision. Ohio may be the same- caliber is .357 minimum. How can  you "Launch" a product so poorly? Interlock is a traditional lead tipped bullet. Save 90%. Natural Resource Plates. The first of Iowa’s shotgun deer seasons is December 7-11 followed by the second from December 14-22. Criteria for allowable straight-walled cartridges Needless to say I thanked him and kept that email in case a field officer felt differently. Iowa hunters have more opportunity to pursue deer this year as the DNR has increased the number of county specific antlerless deer licenses available in 20 counties. Another Winchester .350 Legend promotional chart compares energy on target at 200 yards and includes the .30-30, 223 and .300 Blackout. If the 350 is not allowed, there will be a lot of pissed off people, out a lot of money. first new center-fire chambering since the WSSMs hit the market in 2004", http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/Portals/wildlife/pdfs/stay%20informed/CSI/1501%2031-15-11-Rule-AM.pdf. .350 Legend.38-55 Winchester.444 Marlin.45-70 Government; 6.5 Creedmoor; 6.8 SPC; 7.62x39mm; 7.62x54mmR; Equipment on Public Land Rifle cartridges for Public Lands (state and federal property) must meet the following requirements: Fire a bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger, Have a minimum case length of 1.16 inches, and Pulls out little state approved case gage and said case fails, make sure to tell your customers do not use to deer hunt with it . Ship specially marked boxes of ammo "certified to use 0.357" bullets". Maps are available in the hunting regulations or online at https://www.iowadnr.gov/Hunting/Deer-Hunting/Deer-Disease-Information. Straight wall cartridge rifles are now legal in Iowa for deer hunting, and gun shops report brisk business in sales of ammunition and new rifles. case that’s been removed of its shoulder. Online shopping from a great selection of discounted 350 LEGEND Rifles at Vance Outdoors. The following cartridges do not meet the above criteria, but were grandfathered in and are allowed: .444 Marlin, .375 Winchester and .45-70 Govt. The law enforcement dept has tested and found that some of the ammo is slightly under SAAMI spec. Help Us Stop Hunger More than 110,000 blaze orange clad hunters and landowners will be pushing and posting the timber in pursuit of Iowa’s legendary whitetails. Contact Lisa Widick at 208-360-6294 or ozzywidick@gmail.com for more information. Lol!!!!!!!! ok just got off the phone with the IDNR and the official word is 350 Legend is NOT legal at this time. Prices can change drastically depending on how and where you buy, but because these cartridges are based on the .223 Remington case, a product that is already widely available, you can expect these cartridges to have a lower price tag. So I emailed the guy at the Iowa DNR who actually wrote the rules for the law (he is the one I argued with about the 375 Win vs the 38-55) and he emailed me back that the 350 legend was legal for the state of Iowa. Hunters willing to donate their hides are encouraged to contact the local Elks Lodge for drop off locations or visit www.elks.org/lodges to find the nearest lodge. Does the 350 Legend really have more energy than 30-30 Winchester? Reporting takes only a few minutes and can be done online at www.iowadnr.gov, through the Go Outdoors IA app, by calling the toll-free number listed on the deer tag or at any of the 700 license sales agents across the state. Charge an extra $2 a box to "pay for the extra tight tolerances required" to satisfy picky state enforcement officers. A list of participating lockers is available at www.iowahush.com Mon - Fri, 8:00am - 4:30pm CST “Our deer herd is trending slightly higher statewide but remains well within our population goals and based on our survey data, I’m expecting another good year for our deer hunters,” said Tyler Harms, with the Iowa Department of Natural Resources Wildlife Bureau. Anyone here have experience with these rifles in 350? ODNR may have approved based on Winchester claiming a .357 bullet when they announced it. Will definitely be interesting to see how Ohio handles it since they revised the specs recently to what they are now. The 350 Legend is also designed to work in an AR-15 style rifle. Though small in size (measuring only 2.25 inches in overall length), the .350 Legend is mighty in power, … Submit Online Inquiry SUBSCRIBE NOW. Have the bullet shape drop to 0.356" diameter at say 0.020" in front of the case. At its monthly meeting June 11, the DNR's Natural Resource Commission approved the final Iowa resident deer hunting rule for the 2020-21 season, with no discussion. More hunters are turning to the straight-wall cartridge designs for deer and other game The manufacturer first launched its American Whitetail .350 Legend with 170 gr Interlock bullet in April 2019. 3 RD. OUT OF STOCK (1) Winchester XPR Hunter 350 Legend w/3-9 Scope Bronze 22 IN. I’m not a fan of the Winchester so that’s out. .454 Casull should be fine, but .44mag and below won't make the cut unless you run some really hot rounds. If you still have Mossberg for sale I will come get it this weekend. f: 515-725-8201 So as I understand this .450 socom and .350 legend are still not allowed for use in Illinois correct? Really?I’m all in with the 357 AR, and only consider the 350 legend to be a potential source of range pick up brass for reloading, but the DNR quibbling over this minute issue is rediculous. I’ve been asked a lot about the new .350 Legend cartridge, the round that’s set to take on the .450 Bushmaster in the straight-wall legal midwest woods.The .350 Legend has a number of great advantages, and it’s gotten a very positive reception. Last year, hunters donated around 4,000 deer which resulted in an estimated 600,000 meals. 30-30, 762x54r, 762x39, 300BO, 30-06. Iowa's natural resources plates include the state bird and flower, pheasant, eagle, buck and a Brook trout. Customer Service: 515-725-8200 | Iowa DNR Headquarters Wallace State Office Building | 502 East 9th Street, 4th Floor | Des Moines, IA 50319-0034, Scholastic Action Shooting Program (SASP), Declaratory Orders and Rulemaking Petitions, State Conservation and Outdoor Recreation Plan, Center-fired straight-walled rimless cartridges with bullets from 0.357” to 0.500” diameter as published by the manufacturer and a case length from 0.850” to 1.800.”, Center-fired straight-walled rimmed cartridges with bullets from 0.357” to 0.500” diameter as published by the manufacturer with a case length from 1.285” to 1.800.”. Pay off the original designer and give him a percentage of the ammo sales (say 1%), and walk away with a winner. and the .30-30 with 781 ft. lbs. I see the main choices consist of Ruger American, Mossberg patriot, savage axis, and Winchester xpr. Contact Information by County. So I emailed the guy at the Iowa DNR who actually wrote the rules for the law (he is the one I argued with about the 375 Win vs the 38-55) and he emailed me back that the 350 legend was legal for the state of Iowa. Here are the drafted changes to the 2019 regulations.http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/Portals/wildlife/pdfs/stay%20informed/CSI/1501%2031-15-11-Rule-AM.pdf. ... $ 350 For Sale . So I would have that if it came down to a court fight.Also on another point when I was fighting with the guy who decided what was and what was not going to be allowed a couple of years ago (i was questioning why the 38-55 was a no and 375 Win was a yes) and he wrote back that cartridge acceptability was based on the SAAMI specifications. the Rifleman article states the Legend is Winchester's "first new center-fire chambering since the WSSMs hit the market in 2004"probably nobody left from 15 years ago that has done a roll-out like this .... what is it they say about ill gotten gains? 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